that these colleges should countenance clearly un-Biblical behaviors, Adding onto my last post you must have been reading a 40 year old manual when you wrote this stuff about Asbury. Arrests, convictions, and firearms understandably lead to suspension or termination, but so can purchasing and consuming alcohol (even when of age), attending a bar or a club, involvement with a cult, Satanism, or witchcraft, or engaging in sexual activity. their own standards, and this writer makes fun of them as hopelessly pathetic. November 11, 2013 by John Shore. Woah this blog is great i really like reading your posts. I dont even go to church anywhere around campus. its not mans law they are concerned with, its, you know, His law.. Her brothers asked her how she could live with all the rules. These are CHRISTIAN colleges: did you expect them to accept homosexuality, occultism, and premarital sex? If a student applies and is admitted to one of the educational institutions it is safe to assume that theyve read and have agreed to the guidelines. Hair is to be neat and professional (not tangled or spiked); fauxhawks are not appropriate. Youll find a supervisor and mentors in each residence hall, as well as students who serve as resident assistants. Also, the writer makes it sound as if the faculty of these schools were placing the students under arbitrary rules that go beyond reason. The decision to use alcohol and tobacco kills nearly 500,000 Americans a year, the porn industry destroys millions, and how many die from abortion. )B7= I look at this as just another way [BJU] is preparing us for our future, Davis said. Religion is a choice not a punishment and certainly it is not a requirement if I am not mistaken by my own logic as well as using the bible as a reference would God really want you to be FORCED and REQUIRED to worship him in the ways others want you too? But let me clear up a few things as I attend college there myself. So next time you choose to attack our schools (speaking more to some of the comments than the actual article), check your sources. From my own experience, when you walk away from God it usually has to do with decisions you have made and not lack of motivation or dedication. Our seminary is located on the wonderful campus of Bob Jones University, which enables us to have well-kept athletic fields, residence halls for graduate students, and incredible facilities, along with a variety of on-campus food options, parking, and places for study. Bob Jones University requires all students to attend regular church, Sunday school, society, Bible conferences, artist series programs, and vespers services on campus, though not necessarily in a single week. By the time we were ready to graduate and go to college, that important decision, like most others, had either already been made for us or pushed so strongly onto us that we felt there were no other options. The challenge is starker at Bob Jones University, the bastion of American fundamentalism for nearly a century. At BJU I just couldnt get any action as the boys are all homosexual or want to be. Is there something wrong here? Enjoy a wide variety of meats, vegetables, fruits and desserts across a variety of food categories, including American, pizza & pasta, and international. degree, but never got it. They just dont want you showing /Friday the 13th/ or anything, due to the content. Women are not allowed to wear pants or shorts unless they are performing an athletic activity and their skirts must fall below the knee. Pensacola Christian College The small Christian College in Pensacola, Florida not only has strict academic policies, like that students cant proofread other students papers, but the honor code students sign also prohibits them from accessing the Internet from their cell phones, and students are prohibited from even updating social media sites from their phones. this is what I think of those colleges They can go fuck a buffalo for all I care how dare they dictate your life. I went to Asbury college and for a Christian college I have never had such a bad taste in my mouth for a group of people. Since Asbury, I dont believe that she has read one new such book. I forget to mention the school name Christian A little bit of bleeding and discomfort is not the end of the world at PCC. David Cloud, Way of Life Literature, P.O. He turned water into wine. Keep up the good work! All colleges, whether religious or secular, conservative or liberal, have written codes of conduct for their students and faculty. It should be Students hoping to visit any friends of the opposite sex IN THEIR DORM ROOMS can visit on Fridays. You dont have to get permission from families, no files kept. Its not as strict as its portrayed here. -Dressing immodestly (oh no, youre not allowed to dress like a slut and show off your assets to the entire student body) No one is going to forbid interracial or homosexual relationships, no one is going to forbid occult religions, no one is going to forbid fornication, and you wont be able to handle that. The dorms are seperated by gender, and members of the opposite sex are not allowed in the dorms. Ballroom dancing? Its obviously not an awesome college to go to if you dont want rules, but its not NEARLY as strict as 90 percent of the christian colleges out there. When I transferred from Asbury to the University of Kentucky, I found professors at UK to be nicer, more involved in my learning, more supportive, more Christian, and more ethical than my Asbury experience. Again, some book says so doesnt provide a justification of anything. The Den is a great place to stop and refuel, hang out with friends or work on projects with classmates. You choose to goto these places and you definately visit them and see if it fits what you want a few years of your life to be a part of. "Although Bob Jones University does not hold to a King James Only position, we continue to hold the widely-used King James Version (KJV) as the campus standard in the classroom and in the chapel pulpit. On a related note, outright banning things often just makes them more appealing. The handbook gives the wrong message in this part; dancing is not allowed in groups if it is /suggestive or sultry./ They try to limit large dancing gatherings because they, of course, cannot monitor everyone to make sure they are following that rule. As far as media goes, students arent allowed to have TVs in their dorm rooms, and they arent allowed to play video games after midnight. 1700 Wade Hampton Blvd. While this article certainly peers into their doings from the perspective of an outsider, it admits that the real answers remain entirely subjective and highly nebulous. because Seeing (or participating in) vigorous debates where practically nothing is held as a common assumption between the opposing debaters is a great way to develop someones intellectual capabilities, especially critical thinking skills. I love the Godly atmosphere it gives, and completely disagree with you. Minor infractions include borrowing and not attending chapel and group devotions on a regular basis. Showing slide 1 of 6. Yes, the limitations on personal freedoms were sometimes onerous, but the tradeoffs, IMO, make the typical American college experience pale in comparison. is a college. Jerry, Im sorry you and your wife had problems at Asbury. She did meet some students who were unhappy with Asbury for various reasons, like any students at any college. Serving alcohol at bars or restaurants, keeping hours past 10:30 PM on weekdays and midnight on weekends, and door-to-door sales without expressed permission from the dean or a retail license are all forbidden by Bob Jones University. I was born and raised at Bob Jones University (a christian school) and received my degree there despite the fear, hatred and hypocrisy experienced while I was there. To try to fix me, I was taken to a church, beat, water thrown on me, dragged to a stage and forced to confess things Id never done. Your email address will not be published. One of my professors at UK went to my church (Southern Hills in Lexington), another of my UK professors dedicated his life to improve conditions for the poor in South America. I read the qualifications for these schools and got to thinking about it seriously. I know a boy who went to a very hypocritical high school. In addition, they must refrain from participating in any pro-gay demonstrations or distribute literature involving equal marital and legal rights for their community. Liberty also restricts hugging for three seconds, doesnt allow dancing and prohibits students from participating in any unauthorized protest. We all wore makeup, etc. The only wont allow it if you practice satanism (for obvious reasons) or anything with sacrificing, pretty much.) Still having nightmares. he would allow an environment that would dishonor the name of Christ. -Drinking, also duh, they just actually monitor it here. Roomates: Freshman can request a roomate. If you are interested in learning more check out our website today! Especially for women it was very restrictive. If you want to be a Christian, go to a Christian school if possible. and everyone is a sinner, but it is much better to have standards (standing for something morally Many colleges with rules similar to these have their students sign a form stating that they have read the rules and agree to live by them mine did. I dont think that students are better off if they attend these schools. Bob Jones University. Dancing, too, falls under extremely restrictive guidelines as well, with the school outright refusing to allow it on campus or any official functions held offsite. Isnt that what freedom means: choosing what you want to do and suffering the consequences for your actions. Greenville, SC 29614. Again, how many die every year from alcohol and tobacco? -Supporting or practicing religious beliefs in line with occult (This is not entirely true. and our They are definitely much more lax now the girls are fine wearing pants (modesty is suggested). With loft-style decorincluding a fireplaceand plenty of seating, The Den provides the cozy feel of a coffee shop, right on campus. Obviously, dishonest or disruptive remains heavily discouraged as it does even in public schools. Just food for thought. God bless. I am a Christian, and I would never dream of doing something like that to someone. Thats how many of those regulations mentioned in the synopsis I broke while attending the sixth college on this list. A church I was told to attend? Do you think Id have argued about a college? Im an army vet who went into humanitarian work when I left the army, honorably. ORU has a dress code which is in effect for classes, chapel and in all academic buildings. Ten. You sure do sound like the typical judgemental fundamentalist type that writes these student handbook! I agree that dancing and such is probably a step to far, but the types of people who go to Christian colleges and the like are probably not as bothered by the restrictions you name. They are christain schools and everybody there must not only act like one but be one. She worked a part time job, attended church, volunteered at a local organization, was on a school team and carried a course load of 15 to 19 hours while maintaining a 3.8 GPA. In addition, all freshmen with jobs must consent to being chaperoned by a prayer captain or one of their assistants or an upperclassman while working. I read the comments first, and assumed that they were being prudes. She is involved with Alpha Delta Chi sorority and Campus Outreach, and she works on campus as a student worker and at a department store as a shoe sales associate. I could go on and about more experiences like this during my 2 and a half years at this horrible place. As for the dress code, it sounds old fashioned and sexist. Stephen Jones (above) is the president of Bob Jones University, in Greenville, South Carolina. Bob Jones University requires all students to live on campus unless they are. But some schools, most especially those affiliated with the evangelical Christian movement in the United States, raise a number of extremely difficult questions with their adherence to a highly restrictive code of values. If you honestly think that the way these colleges are conducting themselves and imposing religion upon students is a good thing, well then I dont know. The dorms are all airconditioned with 5 bunks, 1 sink, 2 desks, 2 chairs, 1 phone, over-head and hanging closet space, drawer space, and carpeted floors. Answer (1 of 9): I graduated back in 1976, so this answer is a bit dated. Enjoy the new an. Renovations: One dorm each year is completely renovated. I know its frustrating to have people object to aspects of your lifestyle and faith, but I dont think responding with condescending bias is helpful. From Associated Press. Cookie Notice Bob Jones Academy. Established in 1927. hUKgedj6_6uec^8AZ5lHj.YDT&,X
u&QXvmb.;ry?}y SH )$. The school was thrust into the spotlight again last month . such as premarital sex, pornography, etc. Good for them, I applaud them. The school even governs how students are to go about their off-campus employment as well. Well, I ain't complaini' about it! This may be true in some cases, but at some colleges, the rules set in place by honor codes and university policies are sometimes stricter than mom and dads. Im thinking that the author of this either made up some bs to get people riled, or got his hands on a 40yr-old student manual. No parents, no curfew and no rules. Jim Wed, 09/06/17 8:30 pm. Generally speaking, college and freedom go hand in hand. Id be more concerned about how easily youre manipulated into defending mass murder and less about cheering on places that prohibit dancing or chewing gum. I do not see why people judge these schools so harshly as a non-christian I still think that these colleges are not wrong. By banning both entirely harmless things (eg violent movies) and more harmful things (eg smoking, alcohol without moderation) with the same strictness, these schools create an awful situation where students who have the intelligence and insight necessary to see that the ban on the harmless items is a load of rubbish may likewise think that the harmful things will be OK, too. I accumulated more than 100 demerits during my first year and because of this, they did not allow to me to return the following year. 3. That seems a tiny bit stricter than telling Christians to come to church once or twice a week. In addition, anyone considering dating a classmate or other attendee must refrain from any sign of affection beyond handholding. For the past five years, Bob Jones University meal plans and housing costs have changed 7.2% each year on average, compared to a nationwide average change of 2.4%. What rules are they not so strict on? Bob Jones University. It has long established itself as a bastion of fundamentalism. Campus. Privacy Policy. Of course, the handbook does too. If an institution dedicated to the service of Christ becomes abhorred by those who dont serve Christ, this might suggest that it is doing something right not always, just sometimes. Openly homosexual students are allowed to attend classes, but they must commit themselves to the same standards of staunch chastity as their heterosexual peers. God created dance. So quit whining about some article some guy wrote on the internet 3 years ago about the strict standards set forth by some colleges and start asking yourself- do these standards actually bring people closer to God or are they pushing us further away? We also had similar rules: Its that simple. If such is the case with these schools, then it cannot be argued that they are in anyway unfair in strictly enforcing the rules. If you study at a high quality MBA program in the United States, you can use that degree to improve your reputation and career ANYWHERE in the world, unlike law or medical degrees (or worthless degrees from diploma mills). -Underage gambling is also against the law (and also gives into the sin of greed) My marriage has lasted almost 11 years so far, I have no illegitimate children and I have never been an embarrassment to my husband. 720 0 obj
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Or would he rather you come to him of your own free will and respect him because you want to not because you have to. Choose this day whom you will serve, and if you will serve the Lord, beware, lest you make the grace of our God into Lasciviousness. I attended Asbury for my first 2 years of college and met my wife there. If a disciple of Christ becomes odious to others because of the radical measures that Christ calls us to, he will have followed the footsteps of his master; indeed, what else could be expected of him? Attempting to undermine everything I believe in? 2nd Just because something is legal doesnt make it good for you. Here is Bob Jones University's (BJU) 2015 positional statement on the Bible. Look it up. . I Attended LMU in Los Angeles we do to have strict rules about clothes we can wear pants So nyah nyah yah. Demanding a radical commitment to Jesus Christ of all students involves not only the usual abstinence from illegal substances and behaving courteously, but a number of other legal but forbidden or discouraged behaviors frowned upon by the religious right as well. I have one pair of pants., Victoria Vaughan, a sophomore criminal justice major, said, I havent worn pants.On the other hand, Amanda Francis, an English education major, said, I havent worn a skirt yet.. Tara, Im sorry to hear you had such a negative experience at Asbury. I only partly agree with that; rules put in place by God are often considered to be strict. YAAAY ORU and all the others. BJU Roommate Finder Search for Roommates at Bob Jones University . 1. Look at the corrupt Catholic Church, and look at how many pastors are child molesters. Many who attend the strictest places were either home-schooled or went to hard-line fundy christian schools and churches their whole life. 4. everybody who reads this will be without excuse when they get o the Great White Throne judgment before God. Nor have I lied to him about my history; including the fact that Im a divorcee from an arranged marriage at barely 16 to a man Id met twice, arranged to keep me out of trouble. THE SCHOOL THRILLED ME. And this is coming from someone who was offered a full scholarship to Liberty U and refused (stricter than this article implies-Biology majors beware, as evolution isnt even a theory to them). This Florida institution takes its honor court very, very seriously going so far as to issue demerits for a number of completely legal offenses. Evangelist Bob Jones Sr. founded Bob Jones College in 1927 after his travels across the United States convinced him that Christian students were losing their faith at secular colleges. Attending chapel is mandatory, and it is heavily suggested that not participating in other Christian ceremonies or functions is highly frowned upon. Aside from having a rule against premarital sex, BYUs honor code also restricts homosexual activity, doesnt allow men to grow beards (so No-Shave November is off-limits!) Any freshmen taking less than 24 hours of coursework must be in their dorm rooms by midnight on Monday through Wednesday and 12:30 AM on Friday through Sunday. Rather, they will be dependant on their belief in God to serve as a sort of eternal chaperone, which I think is unhealthy. Clery Act Campus Security and Safety ReportIn compliance with Federal Public Law 101-542, Title II, "Crime Awareness and Campus Security Act of 1990," Bob Jones University provides campus safety and security information, which is made available to all currently enrolled students, employees, applicants for admission, and prospective employees upon request. The articles goal is to make you think some of these colleges are creating robots and the students walk around with bibles in one arm and a notebook in the other. He called the pope the anti-Christ and dismissed Catholicism as a "Satanic counterfeit.". You should consider Faulkner Univsersity for one of these top 10. Feel free to email me at [emailprotected]. Armando Morales at February 13, 2023. Tons of guys here have Call of Duty and Halo, Skyrim and Gears of War, heck, many have Mortal Kombat and Devil May Cry. Read the Amazing, Fantastical, Autocratic. I would not refer it to anyone!!!! I went in as a fundamentalist zealot, and came out a Calvinist rebel. While most schools understandably discourage nationally illegal activities involving drugs or underage drinking, Pensacola Christian College outlaws perfectly legal ones such as gambling, possession of pornography, dancing, swearing, smoking tobacco, and even patronizing movie theatres. It was absolute bullshit, but because I had short hair( girl) I guess I wasnt godly enough They are doing more damage to the kids that have no idea what theyre getting into. Find The Perfect Plan For You. Specialties: Bob Jones University is a Christian liberal arts university located in Greenville, SC. They love to give demerits there and everyone is encouraged to be a snitch. I was a student of your college from 1990 to 1997. Im very sorry that Pensacola was such a horrible experience for you but keep it to yourself. Whoever wrote this had the facts waaaay off about Liberty U. John Ellis, a former Bob Jones University student who blogs at "Practically Known Theology," has more. The residences halls also have study rooms, and some halls are handicap-accessable. I would like if you can wright me. This is EXTREMELY uninformed. Despite that, the entire student body and admin of Bob Jones is very pro-trump and if . Estimated Total of $69,282 in Living Costs Over 4 Years. 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